<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" ><tr><td valign="top" style="font: inherit;">Mark,<br><br>Great suggestion. We'll also have some OAMers at CP Roberts, including Chris Lippitt and Charlie Schmidt (and maybe some other geohackers). We could set this up as a featured co-hack between the two venues. One question: how do we keep this within the scope of a 2-4 day hack?<br><br>Here's one idea for a proof-of-concept application. For the purposes of supporting the Random Hacks and CP Roberts it would be great if we could create an archive for all the UAV imagery we collect at CP Roberts and mosaic it into a workable proto-OAM, which all other applications at the Random Hacks and CP Roberts could call (like Ushahidi, Sahana, GeoChat, etc). <br><br>Assume the following use case: at CP Roberts, our team simulates a disaster response operation, when UAVs would be launched to remap a known area after a major natural disaster, augmenting available
pre-disaster satellite imagery. We would then possess images of the same terrain taken from different birds (UAV and satellite) over a timeline, and we would need to make these images usable for disaster responders to make sense of their environment and to assess damage (simulated). <br><br>Would this use case enable us to work on the issues that Josh, Paul Yves, Chris, Mikel, Richard, and Schuyler have been raising and keep it within a smallish application that could be completed in a 2-4 day hackfest? Would this use case enable us to reuse existing OAM code, experiment with the architectural questions before us, and benchmark possible alternatives without having to build a full-scale OAM application?<br><br>We're happy to help facilitate. And the call in the morning might be a great jumpstart.<br><br>- John<br><br><br>--- On <b>Tue, 11/3/09, Marc Pfister <i><MPfister@enplan.com></i></b> wrote:<br><blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16,
16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"><br>From: Marc Pfister <MPfister@enplan.com><br>Subject: RE: [OAM-talk] The once and future OpenAerialMap<br>To: "John Crowley" <bostoncello@yahoo.com>, "talk@openaerialmap.org" <talk@openaerialmap.org><br>Date: Tuesday, November 3, 2009, 2:33 PM<br><br><div id="yiv1237516318">
<style>
<!--
#yiv1237516318
_filtered #yiv1237516318 {font-family:Wingdings;panose-1:5 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0;}
_filtered #yiv1237516318 {font-family:"Cambria Math";panose-1:2 4 5 3 5 4 6 3 2 4;}
_filtered #yiv1237516318 {font-family:Calibri;panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;}
_filtered #yiv1237516318 {font-family:Tahoma;panose-1:2 11 6 4 3 5 4 4 2 4;}
#yiv1237516318
#yiv1237516318 p.MsoNormal, #yiv1237516318 li.MsoNormal, #yiv1237516318 div.MsoNormal
{margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman", "serif";}
#yiv1237516318 a:link, #yiv1237516318 span.MsoHyperlink
{color:blue;text-decoration:underline;}
#yiv1237516318 a:visited, #yiv1237516318 span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed
{color:purple;text-decoration:underline;}
#yiv1237516318 span.EmailStyle17
{font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";color:#1F497D;}
#yiv1237516318 .MsoChpDefault
{}
_filtered #yiv1237516318 {margin:1.0in 1.0in 1.0in 1.0in;}
#yiv1237516318 div.Section1
{}
-->
</style>
<div class="Section1">
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">A conference call the morning of November 12<sup>th</sup> would
work well, since that evening the Random Hacks of Kindness conference starts
and it looks like some OAMers and many other geohackers will be attending. OAM
is on the list of project definitions for the event. We could hopefully reach a
verbal agreement of where to start, and then the attendees could try to
generate some prototypes and proof-of-concepts.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">http://randomhacksofkindness.eventbrite.com/</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Wingdings; color: orange;">n</span><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><br>
</span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif"; color: gray;">Marc Pfister<br>
Technology Manager<br>
ENPLAN<br>
mpfister@enplan.com<br>
(530)221-0440 x108<br>
(530)221-6963 Fax</span><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></p>
<div style="border-style: none none none solid; border-color: -moz-use-text-color -moz-use-text-color -moz-use-text-color blue; border-width: medium medium medium 1.5pt; padding: 0in 0in 0in 4pt;">
<div>
<div style="border-style: solid none none; border-color: rgb(181, 196, 223) -moz-use-text-color -moz-use-text-color; border-width: 1pt medium medium; padding: 3pt 0in 0in;">
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif";">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif";">
talk-bounces@openaerialmap.org [mailto:talk-bounces@openaerialmap.org] <b>On
Behalf Of </b>John Crowley<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, November 02, 2009 3:22 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> talk@openaerialmap.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [OAM-talk] The once and future OpenAerialMap</span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<table class="MsoNormalTable" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0">
<tbody><tr>
<td style="padding: 0in;" valign="top">
<p class="MsoNormal">I am new to the list, but have been following in the
background. I organize a set of humanitarian field experiments at Camp
Roberts, under the aegis of the Naval Postgraduate School and the National
Defense University. <br>
<br>
Mikel Maron and David Bitner joined us in August, and our conversations there
made us realize how critical a shared imagery archive has become to the
development of the field of crisis mapping. We realized that the humanitarian
community needs a place where civilian and military organizations can share
and exchange pre- and post-crisis imagery, as well as subsquent analyses (our
holy grail would be to identify visual patterns that are precursors to
violence, mass migrations, and mass atrocities, including genocide). Based on
those discussions, the Naval Postgraduate School subsequently offered to help
catalyze the reanimation of the OAM project.<br>
<br>
To that end, I would like to introduce NPS professor Don Brutzman. He is
willing to offer computing resources to help us bootstrap OAM,
including bandwidth, storage, and (if needed) supercomputer processing power.
I'll let him fill in the details. He's an open source developer himself (see
his work on creating X3D, and he is on the W3C committee for HTML5). He has
been using OAM for his team's research and therefore has a longstanding
interest in reviving the project.<br>
<br>
We also would like to offer a conference line to help speed these
conversations. Next week, he and I will be at Camp Roberts with several other
technologists and geographers. We'll be continuing the work from August,
including building an open-source tool to automatically mosaic UAV still
imagery. We are willing to host an OAM conference call on Thursday 12 Nov,
hopefully at a time that allows our European colleagues to participate (we'll
be on PST, so would early morning our time work?). Could we get a rough show
of hands about who would like to participate on the call? What agenda items
should we be covering? And what is the best way to ensure that the call gets
back into this list? (for instance, we could record the call, if everyone
agrees, and publish the audio feed, or designate someone to live-blog the
call).<br>
<br>
Taking up Charlie's point about separating conversations about technology
from those about governance/organization, should we host two calls?<br>
<br>
Looking forward to contributing to a great project,<br>
<br>
- John Crowley<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
</p>
</td>
</tr>
</tbody></table>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif";"> </span></p>
</div>
</div>
</div></blockquote></td></tr></table>